It ships with Domino 8. I've used it in production for web apps and notes apps. It's great for apps that need alot of views, especially date range views. You may have to wait for a support person who know s both but they do have them.
I installed a Sametime server on Linux the other day and after I managed the installer to run on an not officially supported platform, it actually all went like a breeze and has been running rock solid since. I therefore wonder if there are enough differences between a Sametime installation on Linux compared to a Sametime installation on Windows to fill an entire session with. Could you elaborate on what you would like to cover?
@Andrew - there are certainly plenty of times where all-encompassing views that slice big document sets are very useful, but I think Chris is taking aim at situations where they are not. For example, where users come into an application to perform a fairly narrow task on a frequent basis, and just want to find what they need, update it, and get out.
Even setting aside the attraction of Chris' more innovative techniques with embedded views, etc., there are plenty of other reasons to reduce the number of views. Performance of course would be the biggest reason. The reality of most apps I've inherited is that they have WAY more views than anyone needs because every view anyone wants is added without much thought. I also see a lot of unnecessary click-sortable columns, each of which generates a whole new index as if it were a separate view. It is these sorts of views that need to justify their existence, and I suspect with some of Chris' techniques the purpose of many of these views would prove unnecessary.
As for just a list, I attempted a "comprehensive list of tools (with booth numbers)" which I handed out at LS05 and 06, but it was a ton of work. And many vendors have products in different categories. There was a website that was essentially an online catalog, with all vendors filling out their own tool profiles. That's really the way to democratize it and give equitable visibility to all who want to participate.
Putting 3rd party vendor tools into a session at IBM's own conference (to which all these vendors are partners) is perhaps not the most equitable channel for that info, because it's too easy to omit or misrepresent something if one is not intimately and completely familiar with it. Maybe just an appendix of tools that audience may find useful, without spending time on them, would be more appropriate. If this topic is not coverable without extensive comparisons of such tools, then perhaps it's not a good session topic.
That said, it's been done before. Francie Tanner did one on admin tools at Admin2008 in Boston, with the same goal of spreading tool awareness. But that was a 3rd party conference, not an official IBM event.
I have proposed this as a Best Practices session as it really is just that -- Best Practices for a segment of the community that cares about the topic. I also proposed a related BoF based upon Andrew's suggestion. Compliance actually does not have to be US centric. Most vendors are only interested in the US market as they see it as the largest market for compliance tools, but there are many different areas of compliance that are truly international, including ISO standards and of course, country-specific regulations. Regional compliance, such as privacy rights in the EU, is a fairly new area to the industry and quite fascinating as it adds a potential layer of complexity. The native tools in the IBM product set rarely provide only specific value to one country.
The amount of interest in this topic is fascinating -- and quite polarized. I'm not surprised as the interest in the topic is quite binary to most people -- it either affects them or it doesn't. --Dan
Actually I planned to avoid coding as much as possible, but one or the other xPage wouldn't be a problem. Actually that's an excellent idea: - Domino Zen style classic - Domino Zen style xPages ... I just need to speak a little faster then.
If you're talking about discussing the functional differences between Quickr Domino and Quickr Portal, as well as the points that clearly indicate a customer should choose one over the other, then I can see it being a BP session. But simply as a discussion of the differences then no, I don't see any reason for it being a BP session. Maybe a BDD session or another track would work.
@Jamie - Thanks for chiming in. I have no doubt Stephan can fill the time without covering premium features of vendor tools, but my question is this:
"If you avoid talking about the best approaches to a problem because those approaches involve buying additional tools, is that fair to the audience?"
This is of course a totally separate question from the one about fairness to competing tool vendors. Yes I happen to use Teamstudio and Ytria tools, but I do still point out the MartinScott NoteMan toolset as another great option very similar to Ytria's ScanEZ (even though Ytria have sponsored me for ILUG, btw). There is also the NotesHound toolset, which is arguably the best overall value as tools go, although the actual tools do mostly different things than the others.
Putting myself in the audience's shoes, I would want to know exactly how Stephan approaches this problem, regardless of whether his approach involves commercial tools. Sure I'd like to know about similar tools to the ones he might use (commercial OR free), but I'm more interested in how an expert on the topic does what he does. If as in my case a presenter has a "conflict of interest" (however small) in the form of ties to a specific vendor, full disclosure is in order, but that would not diminish the value of the content to the audience as long as the session didn't devolve into a sales pitch.
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If anything, I think ALL tool vendors would benefit simply by getting the word out that these various tools exist and can save TONS of time. If you provided a comprehensive list of tools (with booth numbers) to the audience, even if you didn't cover all of them in any detail, that might be a be the fairest and most beneficial approach.
As to whether Stephan finds that filling 50 minutes of content on this topic requires inclusion of 3rd party tools vs those of his own, clearly that's up to him.
Personally, I think it's fine to mention free vendor product features. I don't think Teamstudio tools include any free features, but Ytria's ScanEZ and MartinScott NoteMan both have very useful free features that one would use for analysis purposes. I have routinely mentioned relevant free features of NoteMan in some of my previous Advisor, View, and Lotusphere sessions, and I've received only positive feedback.
@Martin - I linked it because of the "new developer" angle, since templates are a tremendous teaching tool among all their other uses. Sorry, I should have spelled that out clearly. Glad you're paying attention ;-).